Every once in a while, if you’re very lucky, you’ll form a friendship with someone who is smart and self-aware and vulnerable.

And if you’re not that lucky, you can at least listen in on a really fabulous conversation that unfolded between me and Kim (of People Are Wild fame). She talks about the process of realizing you might be an alcoholic, even if you don’t drink every day, even if you’re young, even if you don’t think you are.

It’s pretty amazing, and I’m so grateful that she was willing to talk about it all in front of a microphone.

Promos by Dark Poutine and Super Serious Social Justice. Supported by Sudio Sweden (code BLISS15) and Bath By Bex (code CBDkate).

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